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	<title>Comments on: china welcome &#8211; a long post to make up for the delays</title>
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	<description>overanalyzing everything</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Zhao</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewpouw.com/2009/09/china-welcome-a-long-post-to-make-up-for-the-delays/comment-page-1/#comment-1674</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Zhao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Andrew, I think the Lynn Pan book you&#039;re talking about was actually written in 1990.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andrew, I think the Lynn Pan book you&#8217;re talking about was actually written in 1990.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Pouw</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewpouw.com/2009/09/china-welcome-a-long-post-to-make-up-for-the-delays/comment-page-1/#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Pouw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the kind words, everyone.</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew - this was a fascinating read, man</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew &#8211; this was a fascinating read, man</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Andrew, I loved reading this one. A wonderfully smooth read and a heartwarming tale. I love you man. I miss you too. Please have fun and be careful. I wish you all the best in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andrew, I loved reading this one. A wonderfully smooth read and a heartwarming tale. I love you man. I miss you too. Please have fun and be careful. I wish you all the best in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Zhao</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewpouw.com/2009/09/china-welcome-a-long-post-to-make-up-for-the-delays/comment-page-1/#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Zhao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would tend to believe that the Chinese-Americans who have grown up in their own enclaves are not any more in touch with modern China than individuals like ourselves who were not raised in such environments.

To use a biological analogy (albeit not necessarily an accurate one so correct me if I&#039;m wrong, Mr. Bio B.A), Chinese-American culture, particularly Californian Chinese-American culture is the product of cultural evolution within the context of a geographical bottleneck - in many ways akin the relationship that the Boers in South Africa might share with the Dutch living in the Netherlands or the relationship between the finches in the Galapagos.  If you took a California-bred Chinese-American whose ancestral home was in Guangzhou and transplanted him in the middle of Beijing, he&#039;d fare no better than you would.  He might speak better Chinese than you, but that doesn&#039;t necessarily make him any less foreign.  Even if he were perfectly in tune with his offshoot Californian culture, he&#039;d still have mannerisms that locals would recognize as non-native, and he&#039;d probably just as likely project nuances that would be perfectly acceptable at home but which the locals would probably identify as weird or outdated.

All that being said, this has been your magnum opus thus far - extraordinarily insightful, deeply personal.  Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would tend to believe that the Chinese-Americans who have grown up in their own enclaves are not any more in touch with modern China than individuals like ourselves who were not raised in such environments.</p>
<p>To use a biological analogy (albeit not necessarily an accurate one so correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, Mr. Bio B.A), Chinese-American culture, particularly Californian Chinese-American culture is the product of cultural evolution within the context of a geographical bottleneck &#8211; in many ways akin the relationship that the Boers in South Africa might share with the Dutch living in the Netherlands or the relationship between the finches in the Galapagos.  If you took a California-bred Chinese-American whose ancestral home was in Guangzhou and transplanted him in the middle of Beijing, he&#8217;d fare no better than you would.  He might speak better Chinese than you, but that doesn&#8217;t necessarily make him any less foreign.  Even if he were perfectly in tune with his offshoot Californian culture, he&#8217;d still have mannerisms that locals would recognize as non-native, and he&#8217;d probably just as likely project nuances that would be perfectly acceptable at home but which the locals would probably identify as weird or outdated.</p>
<p>All that being said, this has been your magnum opus thus far &#8211; extraordinarily insightful, deeply personal.  Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: kato</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great anecdotes, Drew. some of your experiences mirror almost exactly some of mine in egypt. we manage to avoid all the looks-like-a-foreigner based comments/attitudes/etc, but as soon as we start speaking it all goes out the window. in egypt, people would come up to me, ask me something in Arabic, and then when I responded with a slight accent or non-standard grammar, become confused as to why a seeming Egyptian would speak in such a manner.

I think that some return visits to the boba shop are in order, so that I can enjoy Chinese boba through you (i.e. pictures!). And some more posts about your classroom doings!

Now it is my turn to be envious of my friend having adventures abroad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great anecdotes, Drew. some of your experiences mirror almost exactly some of mine in egypt. we manage to avoid all the looks-like-a-foreigner based comments/attitudes/etc, but as soon as we start speaking it all goes out the window. in egypt, people would come up to me, ask me something in Arabic, and then when I responded with a slight accent or non-standard grammar, become confused as to why a seeming Egyptian would speak in such a manner.</p>
<p>I think that some return visits to the boba shop are in order, so that I can enjoy Chinese boba through you (i.e. pictures!). And some more posts about your classroom doings!</p>
<p>Now it is my turn to be envious of my friend having adventures abroad.</p>
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		<title>By: t..h.p</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew: Very touching expression of one&#039;s unrecognized tribal feeling. I think this is what makes yours and all other Chinese person&#039;s experience different from the rest of the CTLC teachers. Colored by others unwelcome expectations, your own experience of being warmly received stands out even more. However, expectation is so much based on cultural upbringing, and not necessarily by heritage or bloodline, one&#039;s impression of China cannot escape this. Lynn Pan, and many other returning Chinese are partially or wholly, products of the West, therefore, I am not so surprised by their impression. I hope you will find through your own experience and your own innate intuition that you can escape this predicament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew: Very touching expression of one&#8217;s unrecognized tribal feeling. I think this is what makes yours and all other Chinese person&#8217;s experience different from the rest of the CTLC teachers. Colored by others unwelcome expectations, your own experience of being warmly received stands out even more. However, expectation is so much based on cultural upbringing, and not necessarily by heritage or bloodline, one&#8217;s impression of China cannot escape this. Lynn Pan, and many other returning Chinese are partially or wholly, products of the West, therefore, I am not so surprised by their impression. I hope you will find through your own experience and your own innate intuition that you can escape this predicament.</p>
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